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they advised george w. bush, al gore and sarah palin before their famous debates. with the stakes so high, what marks do our political insiders give these candidates? we'll tell you, in the "nightline" report card. >>> and, what's your percent? are you in the 47%? what does it take to be in the 1% of the 1%? this year, the percentage has taken on a life of its own, and we get right to the point. >> announcer: fromhe global resources of abc news, with terry moran, cynthia mcfadden and bill weir in new york city, this is a special edition of "nightline," one-on-one, the candidates debate, october 3rd, 2012. >> good evening, i'm terry moran. tonight, a high stakes showdown as president barack obama and mitt romney took the stage in denver to go head to head for the first time. an estimated 60 million americans tuned in to watch this critical moment in an often contentious presidential campaign with the election just 34 days away. crucial swing voters still undecided. with romney trailing in the polls, time running short, tonight could be his turning point. here's how
they advised george w. bush, al gore and sarah palin before their famous debates. with the stakes so high, what marks do our political insiders give these candidates? we'll tell you, in the "nightline" report card. >>> and, what's your percent? are you in the 47%? what does it take to be in the 1% of the 1%? this year, the percentage has taken on a life of its own, and we get right to the point. >> announcer: fromhe global resources of abc news, with terry moran,...
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pe takes credit for george w. bush being elected in 2000. whenever i saw a negative article about al gore, u put it in the paychecks. i had managers do a survey. if they liked bush, we made them register to e vote, but not if they liked gore. on election day, we made sure everyone voting for bush got to the polls. i didn't know he would win by 527 votes. afterward, we did a survey among the employees to find out who voted who wouldn't have otherwise. 1,000 of them said so. the haves and the have nots, where are we in america? this election is about that. i asked who has the advantage? 77% said obama. 23% said mitt romney. >>> coming up, mitt romney is trying to fool the american people by shaking the etch a sketch by line. tonight i'm calling the candidate out to set the record straight. my commentary about what the country would look like if this guy is in the oval office. >>> there's an old saying in tennessee. i know it's in texas. it it says fool me once, shame on you. we can't get fooled again. >> george w. bush famously said we can't g
pe takes credit for george w. bush being elected in 2000. whenever i saw a negative article about al gore, u put it in the paychecks. i had managers do a survey. if they liked bush, we made them register to e vote, but not if they liked gore. on election day, we made sure everyone voting for bush got to the polls. i didn't know he would win by 527 votes. afterward, we did a survey among the employees to find out who voted who wouldn't have otherwise. 1,000 of them said so. the haves and the...
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>> romney is going to have to do what he can to say, look, i'm not george w. bush. the entire message from obama from the beginning of the campaign has been the policies of bush got us into this -- >> how is he not george w. bush in terms of his economic policy? >> because he's been a much more successful record in business. george w. bush was owner of a baseball team and went straight to being governor of texas. mitt romney is an expert on turn-around. he can point on the olympics and all of the different cases and right now he can point to a turn-around campaign. no long knives are out. maybe this is the tagg romney turn-around in the romney campaign. >> that's good. >> go ahead. i'm sorry. >> go ahead and finish up, jim. >> just observing that you mentioned earlier that you see the economy improve. we are back to only the second worst year for foreclosures in the past 17 years, so, yes we are better than we were in 2011. i don't know if this is necessarily where you want to be. i think the argument that 7.8% unemployment -- i'm not jumping into any jack welch con
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that's exactly what george w. bush said in the 2000 debate. you can cut rich people's taxes by a whole lot of money and still have them pay the same share of the total. so that's what he was really saying. he said he's going to cut everybody's taxes by 20%. and then he said in the debate, we're not going to have tax cuts that add to the deficit. now, if this is math, it's math on meth. i mean, it just doesn't add up at all. and i think that's the issue that has to be raised over and over again. and then big bird is really a good illustration of how in addition to all these tax cuts, in addition to all the military spending, all he talks about is big bird. and it's got to be turned back on him. >> in terms of the way the president tried to make that case during the debate. that is what the president returned to over and over again. that's why he kept saying $5 trillion, talking about the extra trillions of dollars in defense spending and how expensive the tax cuts were going to be. i think the president was trying to make that case because wasn
that's exactly what george w. bush said in the 2000 debate. you can cut rich people's taxes by a whole lot of money and still have them pay the same share of the total. so that's what he was really saying. he said he's going to cut everybody's taxes by 20%. and then he said in the debate, we're not going to have tax cuts that add to the deficit. now, if this is math, it's math on meth. i mean, it just doesn't add up at all. and i think that's the issue that has to be raised over and over again....
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. >> and you can see george w. bush's impact on those issues. in 2003, justice o'connor browr, diversity is a legitimate goal and the case you're going to hear, the fisher case out of the university of texas, is a direct challenge to that and a threat to affirmative action in public universities but it could lead essentially to the death of affirmative action and and you covered in this book, and i'm reading it, very good book, that a lot of the behind the scenes back and forth around the affordable health care act when it went before the court and people were stunned, i among them, when john roberts voted and you write in the book and i want to read, this is out of the book, quote, by demanding that roberts kill our entire health care law, the four conservative justices prompted them to look for some kind of middle ground. roberts felt obligated to protect the institutional interests of the court, not just his own philosophical agenda. now, doing that, he uncost merrily went against the conservatives, members of the court. >> he certainly did a
. >> and you can see george w. bush's impact on those issues. in 2003, justice o'connor browr, diversity is a legitimate goal and the case you're going to hear, the fisher case out of the university of texas, is a direct challenge to that and a threat to affirmative action in public universities but it could lead essentially to the death of affirmative action and and you covered in this book, and i'm reading it, very good book, that a lot of the behind the scenes back and forth around the...
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not like prepping a candidate. >> was it hard to prep george w. bush? >> not so much. but i saw the same dynamic in 2004. probl president bush had not been debating in the primaries. thought he knew all the issues. he's dealing with them every day. didn't know how to frame the attack, frame the defense and he didn't do that well in his first debate with john kerry. i think exactly the same thing here. with obama sitting in those meetings saying i know this stuff, i deal with it all the time, but he hadn't been forced in a debate setting to say these are the offensive argument, defensive arguments these are the three points i want to make and i think that was part of his problem. >> i think one of sort of malpractice moments, the most obvious was the two-minute closing statement. you're a speechwriter, you're a columnist now, you prepare presidents. how does he not have a narrative? we talk about narratives and it becomes slangy, but telling a story, with a start, middle and end and he had a two-minute closer that sounded as chris mathews said, memorably, sounded like a
not like prepping a candidate. >> was it hard to prep george w. bush? >> not so much. but i saw the same dynamic in 2004. probl president bush had not been debating in the primaries. thought he knew all the issues. he's dealing with them every day. didn't know how to frame the attack, frame the defense and he didn't do that well in his first debate with john kerry. i think exactly the same thing here. with obama sitting in those meetings saying i know this stuff, i deal with it all...
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. >> which is what george w. bush did against al gore. the next day the bush campaign talked about how al gore lied inside. this whole montage of gore rolling his eyes. and then actually the perception of the debate after the debate was that al gore had lost even though the people who watched it during the debate -- >> and who won the election? >> let's not get ahead of ourselves. >> i doubt the undecided voter is the main population watching the debate. the undecided voter is chearing the spin of the debates. >> big bird, we tend to watch these debates in a different way. one of the points that i have made with people that have called to complain about the president's performance is i would be interested in -- >> they're calling you up? >> i have a had he people that work in politics. what happened? why? why? one of the things i said is, you know, you have to sit in a roomful of, let's say women, who don't follow this every day and see how they perceived it. because i have had a few people say one of the things we're missing is that the
. >> which is what george w. bush did against al gore. the next day the bush campaign talked about how al gore lied inside. this whole montage of gore rolling his eyes. and then actually the perception of the debate after the debate was that al gore had lost even though the people who watched it during the debate -- >> and who won the election? >> let's not get ahead of ourselves. >> i doubt the undecided voter is the main population watching the debate. the undecided...
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he did win more votes in that election of course than george w. bush. joining me now is the host of that special, linda ellerbee. how disappointed are you? this was kind of a presidential campaign tradition. why is mitt romney afraid of your kids? >> oh, gosh. lawrence i don't think he's afraid of kids. the man has 18 grandchildren for goodness sax. >> yeah, he does. >> on the other hand, i have four grandchildren and they can be pretty scary. maybe he is afraid of kids. we never really know why. because we don't talk to the candidate. we talk to the staff and we began talking to the romney staff six months ago in april and they were very encouraging why, yes, we would want to take part of this it's a tradition and it has become one. and then something happened. we don't know what. but all of a sudden it was he can't fit it into his schedule. and that's all they would ever say. he cannot fit it into his schedule. it takes 30 minutes. >> does the romney campaign know the precedent here of how it's a tradition that candidates have been doing for a long ti
he did win more votes in that election of course than george w. bush. joining me now is the host of that special, linda ellerbee. how disappointed are you? this was kind of a presidential campaign tradition. why is mitt romney afraid of your kids? >> oh, gosh. lawrence i don't think he's afraid of kids. the man has 18 grandchildren for goodness sax. >> yeah, he does. >> on the other hand, i have four grandchildren and they can be pretty scary. maybe he is afraid of kids. we...
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george w. bush is the incumbent president. his challenger is this guy, massachusetts senator john kerry. remember at the democratic convention this year when john kerry gave the bang-up speech about mitt romney learning everything he knew about russia by watching rocky 4, and his overseas trip actually being a blooper reel and all that stuff? this this great barn burner of a very funny speech by john kerry. everybody said, afterwards, where was that john kerry when he was the guy running for president in 2004? well, that john kerry actually did show up in 2004 when he was running for president. at least he showed up for the first debate against the incumbent president that year, and in that first debate against the incumbent president, challenger john kerry cleaned the president's clock. >> i made a mistake in how i talk about the war, but the president made a mistake in invading iraq. which is worse? >> president bush and senator kerry were hard at it again today, campaigning across battleground states, continuing the spirite
george w. bush is the incumbent president. his challenger is this guy, massachusetts senator john kerry. remember at the democratic convention this year when john kerry gave the bang-up speech about mitt romney learning everything he knew about russia by watching rocky 4, and his overseas trip actually being a blooper reel and all that stuff? this this great barn burner of a very funny speech by john kerry. everybody said, afterwards, where was that john kerry when he was the guy running for...
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bush, clinton and perot. in the second debate, george w. bush is behind. he needs to have a game changing moment. instead -- there was this moment when people thought he was disinterested and couldn't connect. >> yes, how has the national debt personally affected each of your lives and if it hasn't, how can you honestly find a cure for the economic problems of the common people if you have no experience in what's ailing them? >> i think the national debt affects everybody. obviously, it has a lot to do with interest rates. it has -- >> she's saying you personally. >> on a personal basis. how has it affected you? >> has it affected you personally? >> i'm sure it is. i love my grandchildren. i want to think they're going to be able to afford an education. >> president bush there unable to connect with that voter looking at the watch, a lot of people at home found that disrespectful. to 2000, look at the gyrations in this race. this was right after the republican convention. al gore gets back in the hunt after his convention. they come to the first debate wit
bush, clinton and perot. in the second debate, george w. bush is behind. he needs to have a game changing moment. instead -- there was this moment when people thought he was disinterested and couldn't connect. >> yes, how has the national debt personally affected each of your lives and if it hasn't, how can you honestly find a cure for the economic problems of the common people if you have no experience in what's ailing them? >> i think the national debt affects everybody....
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pursued by george w. bush that got us into this mess, i think the american people are going to see that and look past what is admittedly not the president's best night. i give it to governor romney on style points. but on substance, and that's what matters, the president wins and should. >> you're a friend of the president's. you know him better than almost anybody in the political world, certainly. what went wrong, do you think? what was the thinking? was there something we didn't know about? people suggesting he may have been given bad news just to explain the sort of strangely morose mood he seemed to be in. >> i really don't know. i wasn't in denver. i know whenever i go to denver it takes me a little while to adjust to the altitude. i don't know whether that was -- i'm purely speculating, piers. i just don't know. i do think that the president was right on the substance, but it would have been great to see more energy. i think the general public and certainly many of the pundits have said so, and i'l
pursued by george w. bush that got us into this mess, i think the american people are going to see that and look past what is admittedly not the president's best night. i give it to governor romney on style points. but on substance, and that's what matters, the president wins and should. >> you're a friend of the president's. you know him better than almost anybody in the political world, certainly. what went wrong, do you think? what was the thinking? was there something we didn't know...
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. >> jon: [as george w. bush]: you see, what i'm trying say is this: we didn't land on plymouth rock, plymouth rock, you see, won't get landed on again. he he he. so despite the fact what barack obama was saying echoed the sentimentses of other mainstream politicians and despite the fact that it echoed his own speech in 2007 that aired live on cnn, obama's real crime was not the content and the message, but the rhythm, oh, the rhythm. the rhythm is going to get you. >> you notice the way in the way he delivers the speech before a predominantly african american? >> the accent, he's speaking a different language, different cadence, different accent, different gestures. the falseness is overwhelming. >> we have the accent. we have anger. they don't care as much about you. >> jon: we have jive talk. we have no justice no peace. we've got by any means nestle we've got say it loud, i'm black and proud. all this and more on k-tel's "now that's what i call race-baiting." if you believe a candidate speaking black bef
. >> jon: [as george w. bush]: you see, what i'm trying say is this: we didn't land on plymouth rock, plymouth rock, you see, won't get landed on again. he he he. so despite the fact what barack obama was saying echoed the sentimentses of other mainstream politicians and despite the fact that it echoed his own speech in 2007 that aired live on cnn, obama's real crime was not the content and the message, but the rhythm, oh, the rhythm. the rhythm is going to get you. >> you notice...
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president george w. bush. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already passed that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> which video is more sensat n sensational? more of a game-changing contest modifier. joining us from the site of t
president george w. bush. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of...
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w. asked if sununu's comments had overtones, it seems that way. obama's senior adviser david axelrod thinks romney's say what works strategy will ultimately work against him. >> eliot: which had better mean the next debate unless the president wants to see this slip away from him. joining me now rolling stone national affairs correspondent tim dickinson and doug thornel democratic strategist, knickerbocker former spokesman for the democratic campaign committee and traveling press secretary for howard dean's 2004 presidential campaign. thank you both for joining us. it was not so much fun watching last night and today, i kind of had the sense that we've read at different points in our lives about the seven stages of grief. i kind of saw the democratic party working through the stages today. tim, let me ask you are they now beginning to deal with reality and figure out how to put these things back together? >> you know, i actually went back and rewatched the debate today. it was sort of le
w. asked if sununu's comments had overtones, it seems that way. obama's senior adviser david axelrod thinks romney's say what works strategy will ultimately work against him. >> eliot: which had better mean the next debate unless the president wants to see this slip away from him. joining me now rolling stone national affairs correspondent tim dickinson and doug thornel democratic strategist, knickerbocker former spokesman for the democratic campaign committee and traveling press...
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in 2004, george w. bush beat senator john kerry with 52% of the vote, and we all remember what happened in 2000 between vice president gore and george w. bush. how difficult is it to handicap the race in florida? >> well, i'd say it's pretty close to impossible. your poll -- your poll this week basically showed what ours showed about a week and a half ago, that it was a one-point race. and as anne mentioned, there are these economic head winds. florida is at 8.8%. people feel that. this isn't a state where we've had a thriving auto sector. we have really no manufacturing here. so you can't talk about the auto bailout. you know, we have a home building industry, and that's essentially been in the tank. the state's home foreclosure race is among the highest in the nation. probably the third highest, if i'm not mistaken. so you have this as the backdrop. and there's a really broad sense among people that the country's headed in the wrong direction, that the state's headed in the wrong direction, and it's d
in 2004, george w. bush beat senator john kerry with 52% of the vote, and we all remember what happened in 2000 between vice president gore and george w. bush. how difficult is it to handicap the race in florida? >> well, i'd say it's pretty close to impossible. your poll -- your poll this week basically showed what ours showed about a week and a half ago, that it was a one-point race. and as anne mentioned, there are these economic head winds. florida is at 8.8%. people feel that. this...
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i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that governor romney is a hugely competitive guy. but arguably the only person around more competitive is barack obama. and so there's, you know, this is 30 days out. i would think this would be a much bigger deal in terms of the tactical horse race if this were like 1980. if this debate had been on october 28th, i think this would be a much more -- have much more possibility of being truly transformative. i think it's hugely important, but, again, mark twain is dead. >> all right. thank you for that. let's go to "the wall street journal." "
i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that...
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in 2004, president george w. bush not only blinked more in the debate against senator john kerry, he also won re-election, so there you go. >>> up next, getting in the way of democracy. the latest news that could affect who might get stopped on their way to the voting booth during election day. this is msnbc. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy you're not just looking for a by house. eyes you're looking for a place for your life to happen. i'm done! [ chuckles ] sweet [ female announcer ] swiffer's wet mopping cloths can clean better than mops in half the time swiffer. better clean in half the time. or your money back. >>> just yesterday, a u
in 2004, president george w. bush not only blinked more in the debate against senator john kerry, he also won re-election, so there you go. >>> up next, getting in the way of democracy. the latest news that could affect who might get stopped on their way to the voting booth during election day. this is msnbc. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1....
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he once called former president george w. bush a donkey, a coward, an immoral person. anchor jorge ramos is in venezuela tonight for the election and i spoke with him just moments ago here. jorge, great to have you with us again tonight and president chavez finding himself in his closest race yet to hold on to power. >> reporter: absolutely. for the first time in 13 years president hugo chavez might lose the presidency. he hasn't been able to control inflation, crime, corruption and for the first time all the opposition parties got together behind one continent. this 40-year-old, former governor. >> we know that president chavez almost made it political sport to become friends with our own rivals in america but also controls a significant amount of oil that comes to the united states. >> reporter: there is a lot at stake for the united states here in venezuela. we to remember chavez had pressure on barack obama and president bush but going beyond the personal level we have to remember venezuela exports billions of barrels of oil to the united states and hugo chavez can
he once called former president george w. bush a donkey, a coward, an immoral person. anchor jorge ramos is in venezuela tonight for the election and i spoke with him just moments ago here. jorge, great to have you with us again tonight and president chavez finding himself in his closest race yet to hold on to power. >> reporter: absolutely. for the first time in 13 years president hugo chavez might lose the presidency. he hasn't been able to control inflation, crime, corruption and for...
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w. well, no, this information was color blind in its incompetence. >> in north carolina, joe biden went off script and said the middle class has been buried the last four years. this morning, they've turned a clip into a web video. >> the middle class in america is hurting. >> middle class has been buried the last four years. >> let me bring in dan rather, anchor and editor of dan rather reports and national journal's white house correspondent. good morning. let's address that video right off the bat. robert gibbs was asked this morning if he's worried about the optics of it. here's what he said. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina, i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate to do that. but look, i am, i have to say i'm a little amazed that as you mentioned, a widely covered speech, likely by people at your network, is somehow caused a cur fluff l five years later. >> i love that. so, dan, i guess question is there is
w. well, no, this information was color blind in its incompetence. >> in north carolina, joe biden went off script and said the middle class has been buried the last four years. this morning, they've turned a clip into a web video. >> the middle class in america is hurting. >> middle class has been buried the last four years. >> let me bring in dan rather, anchor and editor of dan rather reports and national journal's white house correspondent. good morning. let's...
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he prepped george w. bush in 2004. john mccain in 2008. and, michelle bachmann and mitt romney in this campaign, we asked brett o'donnell to join us, to tell us you how the candidates need to recalibrate for the next debate. what happened to president obama? why did he do so poorly? obviously you were not in the room. best guess, what do you think his debate team failed to do, to prepare him for wednesday night? >> well, think, you know, there are three areas, chris, where you have to prepare a candidate. the first is they have to know the issues and have no know policy on both sides. i think president obama is fine in that area but the last two areas, i think, his team may have failed, the second is, you have to have a strategy, going into the debate, to execute. and, the final thing is, you have to be mentally prepared. i don't think the president was mentally prepared to take on governor romney and i certainly thing that he was in shock when governor romney went on offense, and stayed on offense, throughout the debate. and put the presi
he prepped george w. bush in 2004. john mccain in 2008. and, michelle bachmann and mitt romney in this campaign, we asked brett o'donnell to join us, to tell us you how the candidates need to recalibrate for the next debate. what happened to president obama? why did he do so poorly? obviously you were not in the room. best guess, what do you think his debate team failed to do, to prepare him for wednesday night? >> well, think, you know, there are three areas, chris, where you have to...
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it happened in 2000 with president george w. bush in florida and it's going to happen again this year. >> there was a report from the pew hispanic center a few days ago saying a record 24 million, 24 million latinos are eligible to vote. >> right. >> but their turnout rate has consistently lagged behind whites and blacks. >> not that much. the latino decision polls are usually very accurate because they're polling specifically latino voters, registered voters and the unthus see amp level was very low. in the last poll it had increased to 82%. >> that's understandable. >> romney? >> no, we're getting a little bit closer to the election. people are paying more attention to the election. when you see the polls and try to understand why the numbers are so different between romney and obama, you have to understand the great majority feel that democrats represent their interests and care about their issues more than republicans. and what has hurt republicans is that very negative rhetoric on the immigration issue. that has hurt republ
it happened in 2000 with president george w. bush in florida and it's going to happen again this year. >> there was a report from the pew hispanic center a few days ago saying a record 24 million, 24 million latinos are eligible to vote. >> right. >> but their turnout rate has consistently lagged behind whites and blacks. >> not that much. the latino decision polls are usually very accurate because they're polling specifically latino voters, registered voters and the...
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george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did you become a fan last night as a conservative who has doubted his credibility from the minute he entered this race? >> well, i think my credentials as a non-romney show are pretty well secured. i have good street cred for your audience. frankly, i thought mitt romney did the best job of advancing even a modicom of viewpoints and stepping up on a national stage than like when al gore invented the internet. mitt romney, unlike john mccain, mitt romney wants to win the presidency, and a lot of conservatives have asked themselves that question the
george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did...
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w. bush had made a terrible mess of running the country but he's not yet proved that. but romney would make a terrible mess of it and he has got this track record of commercial success which is a is a weakness in about his argument he can't say that this guy has has failed in his own by his own estimation you know now i think it's very interesting is that the obama obama people tried to tried to run this as a referendum on romney but now it's the reverse. right exactly i mean the whole strategy of the obama team has been to portray mitt romney as an unacceptable choice in various ways to portray him as an extremely rich man who doesn't understand ordinary people's problems to portray a must someone who has on the acceptably unacceptable tax policies that really favor the rich excessively that strategy came undone to a certain extent last night and i think that romney did really play his hand pretty strongly in terms of both protesting that he did have a concern for so-called ordinary peo
w. bush had made a terrible mess of running the country but he's not yet proved that. but romney would make a terrible mess of it and he has got this track record of commercial success which is a is a weakness in about his argument he can't say that this guy has has failed in his own by his own estimation you know now i think it's very interesting is that the obama obama people tried to tried to run this as a referendum on romney but now it's the reverse. right exactly i mean the whole strategy...
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w. bush had in his first debate against john kerry. >> the president had an opportunity tonight. he created a problem for himself on social security tonight. he agrees with mitt romney. every liberal in this country knows that mitt romney wants to privatize social security down the road. and to do a deal with the devil on that would be the wrong thing to do. i think the president created a big problem for himself. i don't think he explained himself very well on the economy. i thought he was off his game. i was stunned tonight. rash elyou just mentioned about time, the president needs to get in and fight for that time. there's people that expect him to fight for that time. >> i thought the one thing that mitt romney did tonight that he has not done for the duration of the campaign and was very effective was just lop off the right wing of his party. he didn't care about them tonight. if something was popular, more money for community schools, he was for that. it didn't matter if it would m
w. bush had in his first debate against john kerry. >> the president had an opportunity tonight. he created a problem for himself on social security tonight. he agrees with mitt romney. every liberal in this country knows that mitt romney wants to privatize social security down the road. and to do a deal with the devil on that would be the wrong thing to do. i think the president created a big problem for himself. i don't think he explained himself very well on the economy. i thought he...